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    • Mercedes W204 C63 Black Series revealed early - Features 517 horsepower M156 V8

      Well, finally we get to see what this car looks like and we like what we see. We know the car has the M156 V8 which confirms what we reported over a month ago and a month ahead of every other site. Weight reduction is the goal in the car but we do not have the official (rumors are 44 pounds lighter) weight specs yet. The car has the MCT transmission and not the dual clutch out of the SLS which is a bit of a disappointment. More details to come, but enjoy the pictures for now.












      This article was originally published in forum thread: C63 Black series Revealed Early started by FR305 View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        The GTS is NOT AVAILABLE IN US...
        Yep, and I am very pissed off about that but it is the competitor. Unfortunately, Europe will get to have the cool comparison instead of us.

        If Mercedes brings this car to the USA, which looks like they are, they are gaining more and more of my respect over BMW.

        Just need to see the cost and full specs on this thing to know if I want to trade the M3 in.
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Yep, and I am very pissed off about that but it is the competitor. Unfortunately, Europe will get to have the cool comparison instead of us.

        If Mercedes brings this car to the USA, which looks like they are, they are gaining more and more of my respect over BMW.

        Just need to see the cost and full specs on this thing to know if I want to trade the M3 in.

        The way I see it the M3 GTS is a failed attempt to make a GT3 RS competitor. Not aimed at the C63 Black Series. The Black Series is more like a regular GT3.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        The way I see it the M3 GTS is a failed attempt to make a GT3 RS competitor. Not aimed at the C63 Black Series. The Black Series is more like a regular GT3.
        Technically it can't be aimed at the C63 Black Series because it came out before it (although BMW might have known it was coming) but a more apt comparison than the GT3 RS (which is already based on a 2 seat sports car) is the C63 AMG Black Series which shares a starting point far more common to the M3's.
      1. Yukohama's Avatar
        Yukohama -
        $#@!. This car is $#@!ing hot!
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Technically it can't be aimed at the C63 Black Series because it came out before it (although BMW might have known it was coming) but a more apt comparison than the GT3 RS (which is already based on a 2 seat sports car) is the C63 AMG Black Series which shares a starting point far more common to the M3's.

        I think a more reasonable match would be The C63 black vs GT3 non RS ( both available in the US)

        here is a good comparo between the M3 GTS and the GT3



        I expect the C63 Black Series to do better...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        I think a more reasonable match would be The C63 black vs GT3 non RS ( both available in the US)

        here is a good comparo between the M3 GTS and the GT3
        I hate that comparo personally as it has no real numbers.

        The M3 GTS and the C63 Black Series will be matched up head to head, only a matter of time.
      1. ecampbell's Avatar
        ecampbell -
        Interesting... No back seat in the euro edition.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
        Interesting... No back seat in the euro edition.
        That is right... good eye.
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I hate that comparo personally as it has no real numbers.

        The M3 GTS and the C63 Black Series will be matched up head to head, only a matter of time.
        Yes, but in the USA a more reasonable match would be The C63 black vs GT3 non RS ( both available in the US)

        Again, there is no M3 GTS in USA.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        Yes, but in the USA a more reasonable match would be The C63 black vs GT3 non RS ( both available in the US)

        Again, there is no M3 GTS in USA.
        Ok, but the best matchup is the M3 GTS vs. the C63 Black Series which will obviously happen and have to happen in Europe. I want to see that head to head more than anything else.

        I wan to see them all, including the GT3.
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Ok, but the best matchup is the M3 GTS vs. the C63 Black Series which will obviously happen and have to happen in Europe. I want to see that head to head more than anything else.

        I wan to see them all, including the GT3.
        We know the M3 GTS is going to lose between the 3. Thats why to me it boils down to GT3 vs C63 Black.
      1. rppwm3's Avatar
        rppwm3 -
        US wont even see those lightweight seats because of airbag rules.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        We know the M3 GTS is going to lose between the 3. Thats why to me it boils down to GT3 vs C63 Black.
        I think the M3 will lose a swell, but the most logical comparison is as stated. It will have to be a GT3 by default in the USA.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rppwm3 Click here to enlarge
        US wont even see those lightweight seats because of airbag rules.
        That is true as well.
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I think the M3 will lose a swell, but the most logical comparison is as stated. It will have to be a GT3 by default in the USA.
        Well the C63 has way more power and we dont know by how much the weight was reduced
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        Well the C63 has way more power and we dont know by how much the weight was reduced
        Rumors are 44 pounds, likely due to those seats.
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        I can't get over how great it looks.

        Really looking forward to the official release/specs by Benz.
      1. P31-C63's Avatar
        P31-C63 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Rumors are 44 pounds, likely due to those seats.
        so the US spec will not be much lighter?
        I wish we got the good seats here, just like the CLK BS in Europe, these puppies won't make it here either.

        Either way, that car looks killer--I wonder what kind of meat is on those rears?
        By the looks of the "conservative" fender flares, I'm guessing 285ish.

        I sure it comes in much lighter than the regular C63 coupe--I guess we'll see, either way it looks evil!Click here to enlarge
        This car looks great!

        I think more M guys will start to come to their senses nowClick here to enlarge
      1. JonsC63AMG's Avatar
        JonsC63AMG -
        The wheels and seats looks like a good lbs reduction.
      1. KB's Avatar
        KB -
        Looks great but the regular C63 should have looked like this to begin with. The fender flares on the C63 are virtually non existent and these seem small for a black series. JMO