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    • Modern Horsepower (MHP) will no longer be accepted as a vendor on this network

      We are sorry it has come to this but we can no longer have Modern Horsepower (MHP) advertising on this network. Andrew Cluck simply has abused the goodwill here and worn out his welcome (again). As many of you suspected, Andy was using multiple accounts to bash the competition hoping to prop up MHP in this manner. Yes, the user Jbond was Andy and the staff bit their lips as much as humanly possible even though that is not part of the vendor agreement. We simply do not condone attacking Renntech while hiding behind multiple accounts and this is why the thread was not moderated to protect MHP. Andy created that situation and we were not going to allow him to have vendor privileges in a thread the he did not have the courage to make from his vendor name.

      MHP has also been attacking OE Tuning by using a member on another site to post simply false information. Many bought into it unfortunately but amateur mistakes were made as the byte sequence which was read out shows it is an impossibility for the screen shot shown to be from the OE Tuning flash as it was from a completely different model year car. An open and shut case, but once again, the idea was to discredit the competition for the benefit of someone else.

      We want professional companies. We want the best the Mercedes scene has to offer. We want the Weistecs and Renntechs of the world. We want companies who make their name through the quality of their products and customer service, not by using forums to deceive people and then complaining when the forum staff does not assist in the propaganda campaign. MHP offers a quality tuning option because the source of the tune they are essentially reselling is from a quality tuner. This is where the major markup comes from and why in our opinion MHP tunes are difficult to sell due to their pricing so that the middle man can get his cut. There are many other options which cut this middle man out and those options are advertised and available here.

      We thank MHP for their support but we definitely do resent MHP continually forcing the staff to bend rules, delete posts, cover up duplicate accounts, and edit threads to satisfy some ridiculous negative crusade. The straw that broke the camel's back was really when MHP attempted to force BenzBoose to edit the Renntech vs. MHP header thread multiple times. We had no desire to bash Renntech but simply provide the proper, real information. That means more to us than vendor fees. The proof is that MHP is gone, good riddance.


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      1. Jake@Eurocharged.com's Avatar
        Jake@Eurocharged.com -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Have not decided yet as my friend bailed so I don't want to go alone and I also was invited to a nice wine tasting and I really like those events. I also already have a room booked for SEMA which is literally just over a week after. Just haven't made up my mind yet but I could use a bit of a break.
        SEMA! we should get drinks!! me, jerry, and adam will be there wed-sat
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jake@Eurocharged.com Click here to enlarge
        SEMA! we should get drinks!! me, jerry, and adam will be there wed-sat
        Damn I get in on the 31st and leave on the 2nd. We can meet up on the 2nd which is Wednesday though if that works? I don't have to be the one driving back.
      1. Jake@Eurocharged.com's Avatar
        Jake@Eurocharged.com -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Damn I get in on the 31st and leave on the 2nd. We can meet up on the 2nd which is Wednesday though if that works? I don't have to be the one driving back.
        works!!!
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Have not decided yet as my friend bailed so I don't want to go alone and I also was invited to a nice wine tasting and I really like those events. I also already have a room booked for SEMA which is literally just over a week after. Just haven't made up my mind yet but I could use a bit of a break.
        I'm serious, see if Luke is gonna go, you gas can split the gas money LOL. Luke drives slow, obeys all posted speed limits and never leaves the right lane LMAO.
      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        Why wait? I'm going to Vegas at 6am.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        I'm serious, see if Luke is gonna go, you gas can split the gas money LOL. Luke drives slow, obeys all posted speed limits and never leaves the right lane LMAO.
        I was going to charge Luke for the pleasure of my company... then I realized that only works with him regarding females.

        We'll see, he is checking the thread. If he is going maybe we'll work something out.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jake@Eurocharged.com Click here to enlarge
        works!!!
        Cool, I'll PM you my number just text or call and we'll go grab some drinks somewhere. Hopefully some place with something entertaining to look at.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I was going to charge Luke for the pleasure of my company... then I realized that only works with him regarding females.

        We'll see, he is checking the thread. If he is going maybe we'll work something out.
        Good one Click here to enlarge I hope my wife doesn't check this thread lol

        If I can go I will be flying...you're welcome to come with me but I doubt you will want to split the Jet A fuel Click here to enlarge
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
        but they still have the fastest C63's NA which says something about their products
        Take an amazing motor, throw long tubes on it, intake, someone else's tune and there you go
        Really hard. Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        Good one Click here to enlarge I hope my wife doesn't check this thread lol

        If I can go I will be flying...you're welcome to come with me but I doubt you will want to split the Jet A fuel Click here to enlarge
        Jet fuel is kind of way out of my league but let me know what you decide to do.
      1. DD GT3 RD's Avatar
        DD GT3 RD -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BrenM3 Click here to enlarge
        Here save yourself some money on that great product:

        http://www.techtec.de/index.php?id=98

        reseller:

        http://www.eurotekdesigns.com/

        http://ecutuninggroup.com/ aka SINGH autosport

        I was referring to the headers as well.

        Even if the ecu is thru another company and they are a reseller, there is nothing wrong with that. Its a business. They were always helpful and honest with me, unlike others we know.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Jet fuel is kind of way out of my league but let me know what you decide to do.
        Will do...I wouldn't ask, nor would I expect you to pay for something like that if I do end up going. Just trying to juggle some business and family affairs.

        Back to the topic at hand - Andy hasn't been banned from posting here, has he? So, if he wanted to...he could or better yet, SHOULD, come on here and make some sort of a statement about this, right ? Not that it really matters as I'm pretty sure the damage is irreparable.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
        I was referring to the headers as well.

        Even if the ecu is thru another company and they are a reseller, there is nothing wrong with that. Its a business. They were always helpful and honest with me, unlike others we know.
        Agreed - however Andy made it out like the MHP tune was done in house and targeted areas of the ECU and TCU that no one else had managed to modify. What a joke. Standing on the shoulders of giants has never rung so true...and I think that this thread is the epitome of why the word "honest" and MHP should never be used in the same sentence.

        And who's tune was/is he reselling ??? A Euro tuner ??
      1. _AMG_'s Avatar
        _AMG_ -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        Agreed - however Andy made it out like the MHP tune was done in house and targeted areas of the ECU and TCU that no one else had managed to modify. What a joke. Standing on the shoulders of giants has never rung so true...and I think that this thread is the epitome of why the word "honest" and MHP should never be used in the same sentence.

        And who's tune was/is he reselling ??? A Euro tuner ??
        He was using the TechTec tune. Andy even admitted that he gets his tunes through them.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        ack to the topic at hand - Andy hasn't been banned from posting here, has he?
        Nope, not banned.
      1. _AMG_'s Avatar
        _AMG_ -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Nope, not banned.
        So basically Andy (MHP) is banned from being a vendor, but Andy himself isn't banned?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by _AMG_ Click here to enlarge
        So basically Andy (MHP) is banned from being a vendor, but Andy himself isn't banned?
        Yes, banned from being a vendor, advertising, or any benefits that come with that.

        He is a guest vendor now and allowed the limited functionality guest accounts provide. We aren't mean spirited or vindictive.
      1. _AMG_'s Avatar
        _AMG_ -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Yes, banned from being a vendor, advertising, or any benefits that come with that.

        He is a guest vendor now and allowed the limited functionality guest accounts provide. We aren't mean spirited or vindictive.
        I see, thanks for the clarification.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by _AMG_ Click here to enlarge
        He was using the TechTec tune. Andy even admitted that he gets his tunes through them.
        Thanks, must have missed that...
      1. DD GT3 RD's Avatar
        DD GT3 RD -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        Agreed - however Andy made it out like the MHP tune was done in house and targeted areas of the ECU and TCU that no one else had managed to modify. What a joke. Standing on the shoulders of giants has never rung so true...and I think that this thread is the epitome of why the word "honest" and MHP should never be used in the same sentence.

        And who's tune was/is he reselling ??? A Euro tuner ??
        I can recall a few times he admitted the tune was done thru tectec