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    • MotorTrend compares the 2013 Nissan GT-R Black Edition to the 2012 Porsche 997.2 Turbo S PDK

      This is a natural comparison as Nissan made it known when they were first testing the GT-R that the 911 Turbo was their target. Both cars have all wheel drive, both cars have twin turbo 6 cylinder motors, and both have dual clutch transmissions. The GTR has received steady upgrades with the 2013 version sporting 545 horses. The 997 Turbo has not stated stagnant receiving a PDK transmission and the Turbo S gets a horsepower bump to 530. So which is the best?

      Well, the drag strip and accleratoin king is the 997 Turbo. It runs 10.9@127.4 to the GT-R's 11.1@124.8. It's close, but the 911 Turbo is pulling harder and is the faster car.

      There is more to these cars than acceleration however and the GT-R did the MotorTrend figure 8 in 23 second flat just edging out the 911 Turbo with a 23.2. Braking is in the rear engine 911's favor stopping in 101 feet from 60 versus 105 feet for the GT-R. These two really go back and forth.

      What ultimately is the better car? MotorTrend picks the GT-R. They say it is more confidence inspiring and makes a hero out of anyone. To us, if anyone can drive it and anyone can be fast in it with electronics constantly correcting and saving the driver, what is special about it? It's cold and robotic with how it goes about its business. Sure, hugely capable, but there is an element missing. The 911 has become very refined but still has a certain edge to it that will bite you in the ass if you aren't careful. The 911 gets your heart pumping in a way the Nissan simply can't. Is that worth $70k? To most people, no, but that is what separates it from the GT-R in our minds.





      POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS 2013 Nissan GT-R 2012 Porsche 911 Turbo S
      DRIVETRAIN LAYOUT Front engine, AWD Rear engine, AWD
      ENGINE TYPE Twin-turbo 60-deg V-6, aluminum block/heads Twin-turbo flat-6, aluminum block/heads
      VALVETRAIN DOHC, 4 valves/cyl DOHC, 4 valves/cyl
      DISPLACEMENT 231.8 cu in/3799 cc 231.9 cu in/3800 cc
      COMPRESSION RATIO 9.0:1 9.8:1
      POWER (SAE NET) 545 hp @ 6400 rpm 530 hp @ 6250 rpm
      TORQUE (SAE NET) 463 lb-ft @ 3200 rpm 516 lb-ft @ 2100 rpm
      REDLINE 7000 rpm 6800 rpm
      WEIGHT TO POWER 7.1 lb/hp 6.7 lb/hp
      TRANSMISSION 6-speed twin-cl auto 7-speed twin-cl auto
      AXLE/FINAL-DRIVE RATIO 3.70:1/2.95:1 3.44:1/2.13:1
      SUSPENSION, FRONT; REAR Control arms, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar Struts, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar
      STEERING RATIO 15.0:1 13.8-17.1:1
      TURNS LOCK-TO-LOCK 2.5 2.5
      BRAKES, F;R 15.4-in vented, drilled disc; 15.0-in vented, drilled disc, ABS 15.0-in vented, drilled ceramic disc; 13.8-in vented, drilled ceramic disc, ABS
      WHEELS, F;R 9.5 x 20 in; 10.5 x 20 in, forged aluminum 8.5 x 19 in; 11.0 x 19 in cast aluminum
      TIRES, F;R 255/40ZRF20 97Y; 285/35ZRF20 100Y Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT600 DSST CTT 235/35ZR19 87Y; 305/30ZR19 102Y Bridgestone Potenza RE050A
      DIMENSIONS
      WHEELBASE 109.4 in 92.5 in
      TRACK, F/R 62.6/63.0 in 58.7/60.9 in
      LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT 183.8 x 74.6 x 53.9 in 175.6 x 71.2 x 51.2 in
      TURNING CIRCLE 36.6 ft 35.8 ft
      CURB WEIGHT 3887 lb 3561 lb
      WEIGHT DIST, F/R 55/45% 38/62%
      SEATING CAPACITY 4 4
      HEADROOM, F/R 38.1/33.5 in 37.8/26.0 in
      LEGROOM, F/R 44.6/26.4 in 66.7/26.0 in (est)
      SHOULDER ROOM, F/R 54.3/50.0 in 53.4/47.3 in
      CARGO VOLUME 8.8 cu ft 3.7 + 6.7 (rear seat down) cu ft
      TEST DATA
      ACCELERATION TO MPH
      0-30 1.1 sec 1.0 sec
      0-40 1.6 1.5
      0-50 2.2 2.1
      0-60 2.8 2.7
      0-70 3.6 3.5
      0-80 4.6 4.4
      0-90 5.7 5.5
      0-100 7 6.6
      PASSING, 45-65 MPH 1.4 1.4
      QUARTER MILE 11.1 sec @ 124.8 mph 10.9 sec @ 127.4 mph
      BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 105 ft 101 ft
      LATERAL ACCELERATION 1.03 g (avg) 1.02 g (avg)
      MT FIGURE EIGHT 23.0 sec @ 0.91 g (avg) 23.2 sec @ 0.91 g (avg)
      TOP-GEAR REVS @ 60 MPH 2200 rpm 1700 rpm
      CONSUMER INFO
      BASE PRICE $97,820 $161,650
      PRICE AS TESTED $107,600 $178,525
      STABILITY/TRACTION CONTROL Yes/yes Yes/yes
      AIRBAGS Dual front, front side, front curtain Dual front, front side, front curtain
      BASIC WARRANTY 3 yrs/36,000 mi 4 yrs/50,000 mi
      POWERTRAIN WARRANTY 5 yrs/60,000 mi 4 yrs/50,000 mi
      ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE 3 yrs/36,000 mi 4 yrs/50,000 mi
      FUEL CAPACITY 19.5 gal 17.7 gal
      EPA CITY/HWY ECON 16/23 mpg 17/25 mpg
      ENERGY CONS, CITY/HWY 211/147 kW-hrs/100 mi 198/135 kW-hrs/100 mi
      CO2 EMISSIONS 1.05 lb/mi 0.98 lb/mi
      MT FUEL ECONOMY 10.9 mpg 11.2 mpg
      RECOMMENDED FUEL Unleaded premium Unleaded premium



      This article was originally published in forum thread: MotorTrend compares the 2013 Nissan GT-R Black Edition to the 2012 Porsche 997.2 Turbo S PDK started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 4 Comments
      1. Q4P's Avatar
        Q4P -
        Which one would I want? Probably the Porsche for various reasons... Which one is the better performer in the end for the money...?, the GTR all the way. I am not going to even get into aftermarket.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
        Which one would I want? Probably the Porsche for various reasons... Which one is the better performer in the end for the money...?, the GTR all the way. I am not going to even get into aftermarket.
        Considering how much lighter the Porsche is it should always have the advantage, aftermarket, stock, whatever, regarding the straightline.
      1. Bash's Avatar
        Bash -
        Porsche everyday of the week and twice on sundays. I just purely hate nissan and couldnt care less about a robot of a car
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Bash Click here to enlarge
        Porsche everyday of the week and twice on sundays. I just purely hate nissan and couldnt care less about a robot of a car
        I don't know if I hate Nissan as much as I hate that this car is a soulless robot.