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    • BimmerBoost spots the 2014 F80 M3 testing in Santa Barbara California, 7k RPM redline - Photos showing undercarriage, wheels, brakes, exhaust, and front/rear lights

      Always a cool feeling to run into a hot upcoming car, in this case the 2014 BMW M3, and catching it undergoing testing before release. Spyphotos like these get big attention as they show off upcoming design elements. So what can we see here? Well, first of all the color on the car is Jerez Black which looks like it will be making a return on the F80 M3 being a popular color on the E9X M3 series. Shots of the brake disc show some very large vented rotors that hopefully have some high end calipers on them this time around.

      The design of the car does not differ much from what we all expect but the classic aggressive M3 fenders are there thankfully. A more aggressive front bumper along with rear diffuser sporting quad tips round out the look. Overall, BMW is playing it very safe styling wise.

      Reflections in the window make it difficult to see much of the interior although a dual clutch trans can clearly be made out along with tri-color M stitching on the wheel. Photographer stated redline was 7k rpm. So much for that high revving M philosophy eh?

      The shot underneath the car shows what appears to a fairly large tranny cooler (hopefully not sharing the same cooler as the manual as BMW did with the E9X generation) as well as a big and likely heavy rear muffler that aftermarket exhaust manufacturers will be promptly ditching.

      Great set of spyphotos and a big thank you to BimmerBoost member @bmw335iguy for capturing the car.



















      This article was originally published in forum thread: F80 m3 spotted in Santa Barbara! started by bmw335iguy View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        So what was that guy telling me about sub E46 weight and an 8k redline without any substance to back it with?
      1. mithiral67's Avatar
        mithiral67 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
        Looks to be same interior as this pic. 7k redline. Same DCT knob and steering wheel.

        http://www.bimmerboost.com/images/im...ed1080p5-1.jpg
        $#@! e46 weight and 8k red line, I want one with two red buttons on the dash obviously meant to launch nuclear warheads
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mithiral67 Click here to enlarge
        $#@! e46 weight and 8k red line, I want one with two red buttons on the dash obviously meant to launch nuclear warheads
        Those actually connect you with someone at the dealer who will sell you "M" stickers that make it look like you have an 8k redline.
      1. Mkpoto's Avatar
        Mkpoto -
        very cool, thanks for posting
      1. inter1032's Avatar
        inter1032 -
        mehh looks like a 3 series lol, nice find though
      1. whoosh's Avatar
        whoosh -
        991 GT3 is DFI and revs out to 9k rpm. Its not DFI holding the motor back... It's BMW holding it back for whatever reason.
      1. Brey335i's Avatar
        Brey335i -
        And that car doesn't look to be anywhere near e46 weight sadly.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by whoosh Click here to enlarge
        991 GT3 is DFI and revs out to 9k rpm. Its not DFI holding the motor back... It's BMW holding it back for whatever reason.
        But that's naturally aspirated squeezing out every last horse. You will run into problems adding big power to that car as the injection window is so small you will need some kind of superman fuel pump.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Brey335i Click here to enlarge
        And that car doesn't look to be anywhere near e46 weight sadly.
        I don't know who the hell was expecting E46 weight.
      1. Brey335i's Avatar
        Brey335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I don't know who the hell was expecting E46 weight.
        No man. The next M3 will be e46 weight, Veyron power, and rev to 1 billion rpm. BMW knows what they're doing. They would never use M for ///Marketing...
      1. inlineS54B32's Avatar
        inlineS54B32 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Brey335i Click here to enlarge
        No man. The next M3 will be e46 weight, Veyron power, and rev to 1 billion rpm. BMW knows what they're doing. They would never use M for ///Marketing...
        Completely off-base here... It's going to be a V6 with an Inline-6 sitting between the V (this is why there was so much confusion). The turbochargers won't have any lag, and the throttle response will be better than an LF-A... So - it's really a 12 cylinder N54/55 - so, it's not 1 billion revs, you just multiply the current N54's redline by 2 - it's simple. So, with the 15,000 RPM redline, coupled with these no-lag turbochargers (will be an upgrade for all non "M cars" called the ///M Air Addition Package) - we are looking at about 1300 torques and about 400 HP (since power doesn't matter - car will have so much torque, they actually removed DCT and just use a single gear). The best part about the next M3 are the available M performance options. I heard for 3,000 USD, you can get some paint with these titanium flakes in it (for lightness of course). They will also offer a "M Performance Exhaust Power Puffer" for 4k - it will make the car sound a bit better, and will give you another 3 torques. If you are REALLY feeling like buying a true "M" car, you can get another 10 horsepower with the "///M Power Adder Plus Package" - this will cost between 4-5k depending on what paint color you chose... The greatest part, is we can keep our warranty AND have a BMW tune. Oh, and in regard to weight? It's MUCH lighter than the E46 M3 - it will have a ///M carbon composite (MCC) frame coupled with a "///M TiLuminuCarb" trunk and hood... Current estimates are that it will weigh in under 2500 lbs (with driver, full tank of fuel, all fluids) - if you are really feeling frisky - you can get the Convertible model; lowers structural rigidity, but actually weighs LESS than the coupe/sedan. It's some new space age technology called "///M Air" (pronounced MARE ala horse for the missing horsepower).

        I hate BMW for this crap - and DO hope this car kicks ass, but I have a strong suspicion - based on what they have been doing lately (non-exaggerated version of the above), that we aren't going to see something truly special/revolutionary (like the pun?)... Hopefully I eat crow (never understood this saying) - as I really do want them to make something awesome. We shall see.

        To anyone not understanding my sarcasm, that's what this is. Click here to enlarge

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      1. Remonster's Avatar
        Remonster -
        Looks like they're doing the same thing they did with the 135i where one of the exhaust tips bypasses the muffler entirely. At low RPMs a flap closes off that tip and forces all of the exhaust through the muffler but at higher RPMs when the flap opens, it really lets you hear the exhaust growl and pop on overrun. My friend saw this M3 driving through Santa Barbara twice this week and he said it sounds awesome.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Remonster Click here to enlarge
        Looks like they're doing the same thing they did with the 135i where one of the exhaust tips bypasses the muffler entirely. At low RPMs a flap closes off that tip and forces all of the exhaust through the muffler but at higher RPMs when the flap opens, it really lets you hear the exhaust growl and pop on overrun. My friend saw this M3 driving through Santa Barbara twice this week and he said it sounds awesome.
        Whatever it takes as long as you don't have to roll your windows down and turn your volume up so people can hear your engine sounds.
      1. cstavaru's Avatar
        cstavaru -
        Whatever the redline is...why would that matter ? 7K is more than fine, as long as it makes the power and torque. Sound is good for sure, because the muffler has a bypass valve, as far as I see.

        The muffler looks a bit rough, which makes me think that it could be made of titanium. Titanium does not have great bending properties so keeping it straight and rough may reduce costs. Or maybe it's just not a production muffer.

        Quite odd location for the rear brake calipers.

        The rear suspension looks like it has aluminium parts that look thinner than the ones on the e9x M3. Probably to save weight.
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Awesome catch! Cant wait for BMW to release this but im no turbo guy.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by cstavaru Click here to enlarge
        The muffler looks a bit rough, which makes me think that it could be made of titanium. Titanium does not have great bending properties so keeping it straight and rough may reduce costs. Or maybe it's just not a production muffer.
        Looks oxidized maybe from the same car doing winter testing somewhere? I don't know, I don't think that's titanium.
      1. nafoo's Avatar
        nafoo -
        Don't forget to edit Post #12 too Click here to enlarge
      1. inlineS54B32's Avatar
        inlineS54B32 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by cstavaru Click here to enlarge
        Whatever the redline is...why would that matter ? 7K is more than fine, as long as it makes the power and torque. Sound is good for sure, because the muffler has a bypass valve, as far as I see.

        The muffler looks a bit rough, which makes me think that it could be made of titanium. Titanium does not have great bending properties so keeping it straight and rough may reduce costs. Or maybe it's just not a production muffer.

        Quite odd location for the rear brake calipers.

        The rear suspension looks like it has aluminium parts that look thinner than the ones on the e9x M3. Probably to save weight.
        I can almost guarantee you that the exhaust is not titanium - it has rust on it - and overall doesn't seem too high of quality. I am guessing it's just a test rig. A cool little factoid, a lot of people love the discoloration around the welds on titanium - however, violets/blues/greens in the color on or near the weld actually is not good. It basically means that the weld is of poor quality. The color should be white silver with shades going down to a tan color - anything other than this most likely signifies a poor quality TIG job. This doesn't mean if you see this color on the end of an exhaust tip it's bad - this is on or near the weld only...

        The brake calipers are set as close to the center of the car as possible (to reduce polar moment by removing mass from the extreme front/end of the car) - the reason they are slightly canted downwards is likely either for packaging, or more likely to further lower the car's center of gravity. A lot of manufacturers have started to do the first (putting the calipers on the "inside") - not so sure what the downward angle is for - that I can only guess.
      1. Brey335i's Avatar
        Brey335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by cstavaru Click here to enlarge
        Whatever the redline is...why would that matter ? 7K is more than fine, as long as it makes the power and torque
        Have you driven a recent M3? That rush as the needle passes 7000 and keeps on swinging is one of the most intoxicating and satisfying feelings you can get while driving. The car is an absolute monster, incredibly responsive, and the noise is just epic. Monday mornings suck. A visit to 8200 rpm on the highway ramp definitely drives the Monday blues away and puts me in a good mood. The M3 has been defined by great motors for the last couple of generations. You have to work it to extract the maximum. Man and machine together. And it's a very gratifying feeling.

        I love me a good turbo motor any day of the week, but a turbo motor going to 7000 rpm is not anywhere as exciting to me as a high revving motor is. I'll reserve final judgment for when I test drive one. And if it proves me wrong, I will put in an order for one as a daily driver right then and there. But I doubt it.
      1. tdizzle00's Avatar
        tdizzle00 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
        Other manufacturers can do it though - I really think it's valvetronic that is limiting the RPM on the new Ms... They are making power via torque instead of RPMs. I can't dig it up now, but BMW themselves has said that Valvetronic is not fast enough to spin above X - X being something above a 335i and below the last generation M3.

        Look at Audi's 4.2 liter in the RS5 - spins like a son of a gun (8500), and has DI. I would ALMOST say that this engine is on par with the S65 (blasphemy, I know). Click here to enlarge
        Haha, watch your tongue!

        I figured they did it because the torque curve is probably (yea I'm really speculating here) similar to the 335i's. Comes on fast and strong and stays strong through the middle RPMS, but drops off a table over 6k making a higher redline not as useful as if we had a nice flat torque curve that goes strong to redline.

        But then again, I'm no expert and just tossing out random conspiracy theories...