• The final nail in the MHP (Modern Horsepower / Andrew Cluck) "tuner" coffin? MHP business done? MHP M156 63 AMG "records" actually belong to another tuner

      MHP. Modern Horsepower. Andrew Cluck. These names are all known on the Mercedes-Benz forums but for the wrong reasons. For years, MHP has used forums to try to push their products stating they are the best and using drag racing records as the reasoning for this "supposed" superiority. The truth of the matter is, MHP was not doing their own M156 / 63 AMG tuning others were doing it for them which Mr. Cluck would then essentially re-sell at a premium and take credit for.


      If one went to the source they could get the exact same thing for less money. There literally is no reason to pay any extra money so that Andy can take his cut to then spend on forum advertising to try and get more and more people to fall for this same trap. Modern Horsepower has been thrown off several forums due to their tactics including this one.

      Andy is simply too difficult to deal with and uses dirty tricks to get his way. This includes multiple screennames trying to sway a discussion his way as well as asking to have an ability to pay to ban users implemented. Don't believe it? Take his own word for it then:




      What makes this latest episode most amusing is the tuner that MHP had to ask for help. That tuner is BenzBoost premier vendor Weistec. Yes, the same Weistec that has the record for the fastest Mercedes-Benz vehicle as well as the first company to supercharge the 63 AMG V8 motor. An accomplished tuner at the top of the Mercedes game.

      So what makes this funny? Well, how Andrew Cluck / MHP would put Weistec and their customers down behind their backs only to have to result to begging them for help once his other tuner told him essentially to kiss off after being sick of dealing with him just as basically anyone else who has dealt with him has:




      So Andy calls Weistec's work garbage, says they screwed over their customer (this same customer who claims MHP owes him something around a couple grand which has not been paid to this day), that they don't know what they are doing, and then ends up turning to Weistec to bail him out. Unbelievable really, isn't it? But hey, that's who Andrew Cluck is. It's right there, in his own words and actions.


      So why was Andy forced to work with a tuner he bashed behind the scenes? Because everyone else was sick of him. Literally, EVERYONE. People just had their fill of his BS and this is why he was banned from MBWorld, removed from here, and even forums that have nothing to do with Mercedes motors. Techtec is who Modern Horsepower used previously and they simply told him to get lost:


      When you go after just about everyone yelling and screaming on forums you eventually burn every last bridge. That is exactly what MHP managed to do. Makes you wonder how they even had business in the first place?

      Well, it's this use of "record" 1/4 mile runs that get people's attention. MHP specifically targets cold weather with the best possible negative density altitude to get record runs that don't apply to areas with warm weather. This is the selling point though and it worked for quite some time. Numbers make eyes light up and wallets open up.

      When MHP called out EVOMS to race, it ended up never happening even though EVOMS accepted due to MHP not wanting to deal with the Arizona weather which is a level playing field for two cars at the same time. MHP didn't go because the times would not match what was achieved on the East Coast:




      Ladies and gentlemen, this is being brought to your attention for several reasons. First of all, I wish to commend Weistec for helping out enthusiasts in need of tuning help. They could have easily just washed their hands of MHP and its customers hanging the "record holders" (one of whom was trying to get tuning for his aftermarket cams) out to dry. Instead, they helped him. That's just the way Weistec is, they will help you and do their absolute best no matter who you are. With it finally becoming public knowledge (Where are these M156 "record" holders to tell the truth about who really did the tuning? Where is their honor?) that Weistec did the tuning this matter can be publicly discussed. Also, credit can finally be given to the real record holders.

      Secondly, it is way overdue for the Mercedes-Benz and AMG tuning scene to move on from MHP. Andy has failed, been thrown out of basically every forum he tried to advertise on, and it's time to just move on. After meeting Andy in person last year I finally understood the mentality that caused so many issues for so many people. He even tried to take credit for my work on BenzBoost basically claiming his presence built it (claiming credit for the work of others seems to be a pattern). The man literally said he could throw me and anyone he wanted out of a window and then get them put in jail because "it's Ohio" and he knows the right people. This is not a mentally balanced person and yes this really happened.

      There is no reason to go to a middleman for a markup on tuning products that can be purchased directly. Exhaust products, tunes, whatever really. There is no reason to deal with MHP. Enough is enough (and believe me there is a TON more that can get posted but is it even necessary at this point?), good riddance Andy. Karma can be a you know what. Good thing you have plenty of diapers to dry those tears with. It's over.
      This article was originally published in forum thread: The final nail in the MHP (Modern Horsepower / Andrew Cluck) "tuner" coffin? MHP business done? MHP M156 63 AMG "records" actually belong to another tuner started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Gondon's Avatar
        Gondon -
        This is some good detective work.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Gondon Click here to enlarge
        This is some good detective work.
        Didn't really take too much...
      1. Jacob502's Avatar
        Jacob502 -
        @Sticky, good job. Excellent, and Excellent Article. Andy screwed many customers in the Middle-East and Asia. I'll make sure to broadcast this Article on some of the major forums in the Middle-East racing world.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
        @Sticky, good job. Excellent, and Excellent Article. Andy screwed many customers in the Middle-East and Asia. I'll make sure to broadcast this Article on some of the major forums in the Middle-East racing world.
        Please do sorry to hear about the middle east customers but we can educate at least.
      1. Jacob502's Avatar
        Jacob502 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Please do sorry to hear about the middle east customers but we can educate at least.

        No worrie man. the ones that I know have already moved on and got better mods for thier cars.

        I think one must also mention besides the tuning, MHP/Andy does not produce/fabricate any of the exhusts systems you see on his website. I hear that stainless works are the ones responsible. So, thats an other option. In fact, he doesnt produce/create anyting just sends out emails and answers phone calls from his grandmother's basement. I have to hand it to him though, he did fool alot of people (and that includes me). He made alot of $$ out of that basement department reselling products.

        Thank god I only bought a set of Heat reduction gaskets and themostat (for alot $$) that are worthless and really dont do 5hit
      1. Jacob502's Avatar
        Jacob502 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        After meeting Andy in person last year I finally understood the mentality that caused so many issues for so many people. He even tried to take credit for my work on BenzBoost basically claiming his presence built it (claiming credit for the work of others seems to be a pattern). The man literally said he could throw me and anyone he wanted out of a window and then get them put in jail because "it's Ohio" and he knows the right people. This is not a mentally balanced person and yes this really happened.

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        hahahahahaahahahah.. He told my brother and I the same exact phrase. I guess he plans some usual 5hit phrases to throw at people when trying to play his tactics.
      1. ra2289's Avatar
        ra2289 -
        Oh Lord Jesus...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ra2289 Click here to enlarge
        Oh Lord Jesus...
        You just can't make this stuff up.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        You just can't make this stuff up.
        When you are a sociopath you can Click here to enlarge
      1. m54b25's Avatar
        m54b25 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        When you are a sociopath you can Click here to enlarge
        Well, he remind us about another scam artist
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by m54b25 Click here to enlarge
        Well, he remind us about another scam artist Click here to enlarge
        Just wanted to add he was pissed off I didn't just let him dump all over Renntech Click here to enlarge I think things worked out best for everyone regarding that eh?
      1. m54b25's Avatar
        m54b25 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Just wanted to add he was pissed off I didn't just let him dump all over Renntech Click here to enlarge I think things worked out best for everyone regarding that eh?
        Thanks for not falling into his li'l scheme! MHP possibly less than 5 years in business.. RENNtech over 20 years. That's what makes the difference in customer support.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by m54b25 Click here to enlarge
        Thanks for not falling into his li'l scheme! MHP possibly less than 5 years in business.. RENNtech over 20 years. That's what makes the difference in customer support.
        It was just enough, no need to bash every other tuner as if anyone but you is terrible. People saw through it and it all worked out in the end. Happy to have you aboard.

        Also thanks for not sending me txt messages all night asking me to edit/delete posts to cover your behind Click here to enlarge
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Great Article. Im so glad I never accepted his offer to tune my customers cars in Bahrain Click here to enlarge

        I could smell BS from a million miles away when he was emailing me and $#@! LOL.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 0-60Motorsports Click here to enlarge
        Great Article. Im so glad I never accepted his offer to tune my customers cars in Bahrain Click here to enlarge

        I could smell BS from a million miles away when he was emailing me and $#@! LOL.
        Glad nobody you knew got taken advantage of. Unfortunately, seems many people in the Middle East did though.
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Glad nobody you knew got taken advantage of. Unfortunately, seems many people in the Middle East did though.
        Well i DO know people who were ripped off by MHP in the Middle-East but Not in Bahrain.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        I think it's interesting that Keith has remained quiet during all of this considering he is MHP's poster client with all the "records".
      1. Gondon's Avatar
        Gondon -
        SLSQatar and his bro jacob know first hand
      1. mramg1's Avatar
        mramg1 -
        Heck, I called this years ago on MBworld when I helped to get that POS banned. He was a shikester then, and still is. Thanks Sticky for postingClick here to enlarge

        And yeah LZH it is weird about Keith's silence?
      1. Fast Lane's Avatar
        Fast Lane -
        This is really amusing. I did mention in a previous thread that I called Mr. Cluck to purchase some products from him. I wanted to get some headers from him for my CLK. He didnt have a set that "his fabricators" make for the CLK. He told me that he could provide the best tuning for my engine control module. I explained to him that I am from San Diego and Weistec would be a better option for me. He actually laughed, really guys laughed and told me that they cant provide better tuning then what he could offer and told me to think about it carefully, I was like....OK. I'm the one laughing now knowing that he had their software tuning for his customers. He also lied to me and told me that his ECU tuning is done in coordination with some partners he has in Europe.