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    • AutoBild pits the Porsche 991 Turbo S against the SLS AMG Black Series on the Sachsenring - 991 comes out on top

      Interesting roadcourse comparison here done by the German publication AutoBild pitting two of the hottest German performance cars in existence against each other. Those would be the brand new Porsche 991 Turbo S and the Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Black Series. The 991 Turbo S is not exactly what would one call a value starting at $182,050 but the SLS AMG Black Series is even more expensive starting at $275,925.


      Both cars were tested on the same track with the same driver. Surprisingly, the 991 Turbo S beats the SLS AMG Black Series convincingly lapping the circuit in 1:32.51 compared to the SLS AMG Black Series 1:33.38. The 991 Turbo S is definitely showing itself to be an elite performance car and this bodes well for upcoming higher performance GT2.


      Sachsenring laptimes:
      1:32,51 min - Porsche 911 Turbo S
      1:33,38 min - Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Black Series (semi-slicks)
      1:33,51 min - Porsche 911 GT2 RS (997.2) (semi-slicks)
      1:33,58 min - 9ff GTrack 480 (997.2 GT3) (semi-slicks)
      1:33,61 min - McLaren MP4-12C (625 hp, semi-slicks)
      1:33,69 min - McLaren MP4-12C Spider (semi-slicks)
      1:33,89 min - Sportec SP750 (997 GT2) (semi-slicks)
      1:34,14 min - Wiesmann GT MF5 '13
      1:34,45 min - Audi R8 GT (semi-slicks)
      1:34,53 min - KTM X-Bow R (semi-slicks)
      1:34,69 min - Cargraphic 911 GT3 RSC 2 3.8 (997.2) (semi-slicks)
      1:34,75 min - Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997.2) (semi-slicks)
      1:34,76 min - TechArt 911 Turbo PDK (997.2) (semi-slicks)
      1:34,79 min - Abt R8 GTR S-tronic (semi-slicks)
      1:34,82 min - McLaren MP4-12C Spider
      1:34,84 min - Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 (semi-slicks)
      1:34,86 min - 9ff BT-2 800 (997 GT2) (semi-slicks)
      1:35,01 min - Geiger-Corvette ZR1
      1:35,15 min - Brömmler-Nissan GT-R Alpha 9 (R35)
      1:35,19 min - Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991, Sport PASM)
      1:35,26 min - Abt R8 GTR R-tronic
      1:35,41 min - Novidem GT-RS (Nissan GT-R)
      1:35,64 min - Audi R8 5.2 FSI V10 Plus S-tronic

      This article was originally published in forum thread: AutoBild pits the Porsche 991 Turbo S against the SLS AMG Black Series on the Sachsenring - 991 comes out on top started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 12 Comments
      1. leveraged sellout's Avatar
        leveraged sellout -
        Unbelievable. There is literally nothing this car can't do. 911 Turbo S...A Veyron for 10% of the price.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Well it isn't quite a Veyron but it isn't giving up all that much for the money difference.
      1. onurleft's Avatar
        onurleft -
        It really isn't. Even if you think about it, what will the 991T due flat out, given enough distance? 215+ mph doesn't seem out of reach at all.
      1. Alpina_B3_Lux's Avatar
        Alpina_B3_Lux -
        What might be interesting to know in this context is that the German magazine "sport auto" recently published an article comparing the new Porsche GT3 and the Turbo S and concluded that the Turbo S is actually easier to drive faster because its suspension is more confidence inspiring. It also tested the Turbo S and the GT3 on the Hockenheim race course, and surprisingly the Turbo S was actually faster. Quite a role inverson that the more track-oriented GT3 is slower than the Turbo S.

        Alpina_B3_Lux
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        I cant wait to drive the 991 Turbo S.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Alpina_B3_Lux Click here to enlarge
        What might be interesting to know in this context is that the German magazine "sport auto" recently published an article comparing the new Porsche GT3 and the Turbo S and concluded that the Turbo S is actually easier to drive faster because its suspension is more confidence inspiring. It also tested the Turbo S and the GT3 on the Hockenheim race course, and surprisingly the Turbo S was actually faster. Quite a role inverson that the more track-oriented GT3 is slower than the Turbo S.

        Alpina_B3_Lux
        The Turbo is doing it with raw power, not finesse. Well, at least not as much finesse as the GT3.

        The GT3 will be more difficult to reach the limits of. It is the driver's car.
      1. Suchoi's Avatar
        Suchoi -
        I even prefer nature inspired engine like the GT3.

        A really nice driving machine ...
      1. Alpina_B3_Lux's Avatar
        Alpina_B3_Lux -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        The Turbo is doing it with raw power, not finesse. Well, at least not as much finesse as the GT3.

        The GT3 will be more difficult to reach the limits of. It is the driver's car.
        From what I read from the journalists who have actually driven both cars, it is exactly the contrary. They wrote that the Turbo is better to drive as it gives a more precise feedback when approaching the limit, whereas the GT3 is unpredictable. Apparently the steering / suspension setup of the GT3 is not ideal.

        Nothing Porsche can't fix, but right now it's really amazing that the car that is NOT set up to be a track machine is actually faster on the track. And Hockenheim is not one where power plays such a huge role (compared to the Nürburgring for example).

        Alpina_B3_Lux
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Alpina_B3_Lux Click here to enlarge
        They wrote that the Turbo is better to drive as it gives a more precise feedback when approaching the limit, whereas the GT3 is unpredictable. Apparently the steering / suspension setup of the GT3 is not ideal.
        That just doesn't make any sense. Certainly not what EVO said and why it was picked as car of the year.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Alpina_B3_Lux Click here to enlarge
        Nothing Porsche can't fix, but right now it's really amazing that the car that is NOT set up to be a track machine is actually faster on the track. And Hockenheim is not one where power plays such a huge role (compared to the Nürburgring for example).
        Hockenheim is tighter but due to all wheel drive the power difference can be utilized. I'm sticking by raw power and not the suspension as obviously the GT3 is lighter and the suspension is more firmly tuned.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        AWD and PDK = Game over for the SLS. Tune both cars and the Turbo S would beat it even worse.
      1. S62R's Avatar
        S62R -
        Was the Turbo on regular road tires?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        I'm not sure.