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    • German Tuner Mcchip-dkr gets the M133 2.0 liter in the 45 AMG models over 400 horsepower with a Stage I tune - Working on Stage III twin scroll turbo upgrade

      More good news on the tuning prospects of the M133 AMG 2.0 liter turbocharged four-cylinder in the new 45 AMG models continues to roll in. German tuner Mcchip-dkr with just their Stage I tune was able to raise output from the quoted 360 horsepower to 410 horsepower. The dynograph below shows horsepower output at the crank. Keep in mind this is just a Stage I tune but what is impressive is that the torque gains start at 2500 rpm and continue to redline.

      Not bad for a motor many figured would be at its limit straight from the factory. Additionally, Mcchip-dkr announced they are already working on a Stage III twin scroll turbocharger upgrade to take output up past 450 horsepower which they should reach easily. There are no pictures of development and it is likely a ways off but tuners already announcing turbo upgrades for this motor makes it an incredibly exciting tuning prospect.

      Dynograph below.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: German Tuner Mcchip-dkr gets the M133 2.0 liter in the 45 AMG models over 400 horsepower with a Stage I tune - Working on Stage III twin scroll turbo upgrade started by Sticky View original post
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      1. whoosh's Avatar
        whoosh -
        That's a torquey little bastard, isn't it? Twin scroll should be a great development for this motor in terms of area under the curve and lowering the RPMs where power comes on. Makes one wonder why MB didn't go with one for the stock application.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by whoosh Click here to enlarge
        That's a torquey little bastard, isn't it? Twin scroll should be a great development for this motor in terms of area under the curve and lowering the RPMs where power comes on. Makes one wonder why MB didn't go with one for the stock application.
        I mean MB could have but this thing is already performing really damn well and they likely didn't want to get it any closer to the 63's.

        It's going to be fun seeing these run 11's.
      1. mramg1's Avatar
        mramg1 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I mean MB could have but this thing is already performing really damn well and they likely didn't want to get it any closer to the 63's.

        It's going to be fun seeing these run 11's.
        It already made my list of work cars to buy next yearClick here to enlarge
      1. George Smooth's Avatar
        George Smooth -
        I hope the new C63 had two of these exact turbos.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by George Smooth Click here to enlarge
        I hope the new C63 had two of these exact turbos.
        Read: http://www.benzboost.com/content.php...-and-CAMTRONIC
      1. TT C6's Avatar
        TT C6 -
        "Many would have thought was limited from the factory".

        Uhhh, many people think that because it's true.
        Peaky little powerplants suck for the street, and are laughable in luxury sedans.
      1. ezec63's Avatar
        ezec63 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by whoosh Click here to enlarge
        That's a torquey little bastard, isn't it? Twin scroll should be a great development for this motor in terms of area under the curve and lowering the RPMs where power comes on. Makes one wonder why MB didn't go with one for the stock application.
        AMG did use a Borg Warner twin scroll for the stock application. I think they mean they will offer an upgrade for the stock twin scroll unit probably bigger wheels aka hybrid turbos
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TT C6 Click here to enlarge
        "Many would have thought was limited from the factory".

        Uhhh, many people think that because it's true.
        Peaky little powerplants suck for the street, and are laughable in luxury sedans.
        You must be looking at a different dyno than everyone else. Additionally, over 400 horsepower on a factory 2.0 liter is incredible.

        Respect it for what it is. Putting the motor down because it isn't 'big enough' for you isn't what being an enthusiast is about.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ezec63 Click here to enlarge
        AMG did use a Borg Warner twin scroll for the stock application. I think they mean they will offer an upgrade for the stock twin scroll unit probably bigger wheels aka hybrid turbos
        This is correct.
      1. whoosh's Avatar
        whoosh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ezec63 Click here to enlarge
        AMG did use a Borg Warner twin scroll for the stock application. I think they mean they will offer an upgrade for the stock twin scroll unit probably bigger wheels aka hybrid turbos
        Didn't know the stoker was a twin-scroll. Thanks for the info. Click here to enlarge
      1. whoosh's Avatar
        whoosh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        You must be looking at a different dyno than everyone else.
        Right, I don't know how anyone could look at the attached dyno plot and use the word "peaky" to describe it. Unless they had a bias against the car under review for whatever reason...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by whoosh Click here to enlarge
        Right, I don't know how anyone could look at the attached dyno plot and use the word "peaky" to describe it. Unless they had a bias against the car under review for whatever reason...
        He does have a bias. I really don't understand it.

        I think it's pretty cool AMG has multiple motors available with different flavors for different tastes. It's also interesting to me to see a 2.0 liter four banger pushed so far from the factory. Things just keep getting better in the tuning world.
      1. ezec63's Avatar
        ezec63 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        He does have a bias. I really don't understand it.

        I think it's pretty cool AMG has multiple motors available with different flavors for different tastes. It's also interesting to me to see a 2.0 liter four banger pushed so far from the factory. Things just keep getting better in the tuning world.
        If it doesnt have the bore size of a keg with a 2 foot stroke it just means it sucks ! Because things like headwork, cams, efficient turbos, dethrottling of the intake tract, great cooling, etc cant over come 1.5 liters of displacement ever !!! Not to mention the increased friction any time you increase displacement. Thats why its common to see the tiny displacement hondas pushing out crazy HP per liter numbers compared to seeing the same in a 6+ Liter motor the extra friction/rotating weight just makes it so much harder. I guess thats why the GTR sucks so much puny little 3.8 liter displacement .....
      1. DFM's Avatar
        DFM -
        I wonder how well the DCT will handle the torque over time.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DFM Click here to enlarge
        I wonder how well the DCT will handle the torque over time.
        Should be fine until people start adding a bunch of torque.
      1. Flinchy's Avatar
        Flinchy -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I mean MB could have but this thing is already performing really damn well and they likely didn't want to get it any closer to the 63's.

        It's going to be fun seeing these run 11's.
        haven't they already seen high 11's at like 112 or something?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
        haven't they already seen high 11's at like 112 or something?
        Not high 11's but high 12's at around 110.
      1. Flinchy's Avatar
        Flinchy -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Not high 11's but high 12's at around 110.
        ahh my mistake

        locally last week, one ran 12.2 and 12.3 at 113mph with some sort of basic tune... better rubber/better track prep/colder night away from 11's just about haha
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
        locally last week, one ran 12.2 and 12.3 at 113mph with some sort of basic tune...
        Are you kidding me? That's incredible.

        No slips or vids posted?
      1. Nugs's Avatar
        Nugs -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Are you kidding me? That's incredible.

        No slips or vids posted?
        Don't know how to link to a face book post but this is on the willall Racing Pty Ltd wall
        Attachment 35497

        The only dyno that matters - the BIG BLACK DYNO at Western Sydney International Dragway. Stock the development A45 went a best of 12.71, tuned with Willall Phase I system 12.28. Same fuel load, same warm temperatures, everything else identical. Real world gains that an A45/CLA owner can reproduce exactly without the marketing spin. There it is.