• BMS E82 135i FFTEC N54 Single Turbo Kit Dyno Testing - 585 wheel horsepower

      Been racking up miles on the 135i and fixing little things. And finally had a chance to get to the dyno today for some baseline testing. As I've mentioned I've been VERY pleased with the FFTEC twin scroll top mount 5862 turbocharger kit. On road performance and spool is much better than any other combinations I've driven.


      Testing details:


      2008 135i Steptronic (original trans, for now)
      JB4 single turbo firmware & supporting flash
      FFTEC 5862 top mount single turbo
      BigTom intercooler, BMS OCC, BMS stat, etc
      Walbro 255 inline fuel pump mod
      Factory exhaust system (did not bother to open cutout)
      ~E30 mix for for 17psi runs. For 20psi+ runs enabled meth kit for fueling using a single CM10 nozzle.


      Notes:
      1) Was not going after any power records so left the tuning very conservative all around. At the same boost levels there is easily another 15hp in this setup with more advance. And no reason this turbo can't be cranked up to 28psi when the trans is ready.
      2) It made a lot more power than I was expecting. It's basically on pace with the 6466 at these lower boost levels only with much better spool.
      3) If the trans would shift this car would be seriously quick. I'll get to work on that ASAP.
















      Video of one of the 23psi runs:


      This article was originally published in forum thread: 135i BMS FFTEC Single Turbo Dyno Testing started by Terry@BMS View original post
      Comments 336 Comments
      1. mjmarovi's Avatar
        mjmarovi -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by jzeee037 Click here to enlarge
        Mine is holding up fine. Its been abused on a daily basis with stage 2 vargas turbos and a 65-75 additive on map 3. I've said before its not the power levels that the ST or Vargas stage 3's but seems to be fine at the 500hp/tq range. I'll be doing stage 3 vargas turbos and we'll see how strong it is.
        Do you know what torque levels your car is putting down? You have batch 2's now right? And is this hard driving on a dragstrip with launches or more road race?
      1. jzeee037's Avatar
        jzeee037 -
        Hard launches and on dr's.Mine are batch 1's so they are not quite the batch 2 or rb level but not far off of 500. Mainly drag strip launches and back road launches when logging. I torched the first tranny with stock turbos in less than a years time. When I say driven hard I mean I'm always on map 3 with a 65-75 additive and I drive it hard all the time I'm in it. I've not driven it as much in the past 2months but was averaging about1,500 miles a month before that.
      1. jzeee037's Avatar
        jzeee037 -
        Also I run the alpina flash now so that may help with the longevity but that's not proven. Can't remember what month last year that I got the vargas turbos but should be coming up on a year pretty soon and both the turbos and transmission are holding up well which is surprising to me considering my driving habits.
      1. mjmarovi's Avatar
        mjmarovi -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by jzeee037 Click here to enlarge
        Hard launches and on dr's.Mine are batch 1's so they are not quite the batch 2 or rb level but not far off of 500. Mainly drag strip launches and back road launches when logging. I torched the first tranny with stock turbos in less than a years time. When I say driven hard I mean I'm always on map 3 with a 65-75 additive and I drive it hard all the time I'm in it. I've not driven it as much in the past 2months but was averaging about1,500 miles a month before that.
        That's pretty promising in my eyes. How many miles total about on the lvl10?
      1. 07Tundra's Avatar
        07Tundra -
        But 7k I would think a manual swap would be less than that.
      1. mjmarovi's Avatar
        mjmarovi -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 07Tundra Click here to enlarge
        But 7k I would think a manual swap would be less than that.
        Probably about that, but then you have a slow MT...AT's are so much quicker and hold boost through shifts
      1. jzeee037's Avatar
        jzeee037 -
        Easily 15k. I had it for a while on the stockers. In that 7k is removal of the bad trans. and install of a new one I ordered from lkq while the original was being built. Then install of the original after it was built. Still pricy but its still working fine for now.
      1. 07Tundra's Avatar
        07Tundra -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by jzeee037 Click here to enlarge
        Easily 15k. I had it for a while on the stockers. In that 7k is removal of the bad trans. and install of a new one I ordered from lkq while the original was being built. Then install of the original after it was built. Still pricy but its still working fine for now.
        True could probably knock some off if you did your own R&R. Doesn't lvl1 Have a tranny on there website for a little over 4k that holds 700whp?
      1. mjmarovi's Avatar
        mjmarovi -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 07Tundra Click here to enlarge
        True could probably knock some off if you did you own R&R. Doesn't lvl1 Have a tranny on there website for a little over 4k that holds 700whp?
        they don't have much of anything listed on their website except for contact information http://level10transmission.com/index.html
      1. 07Tundra's Avatar
        07Tundra -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
        they don't have much of anything listed on their website except for contact information http://level10transmission.com/index.html
        Here ya go http://ujue5.xspw3.servertrust.com/
      1. jzeee037's Avatar
        jzeee037 -
        Yeah if you send yours in. I sent converter and valvebody and let my shop down here install the whole package. Probably works out about the same.
      1. 07Tundra's Avatar
        07Tundra -
        install what the TC and valve body?
      1. jzeee037's Avatar
        jzeee037 -
        And the bulletproof kit with clutches and whatever else is in it.
      1. jzeee037's Avatar
        jzeee037 -
        Think it was called a rebuild kit.
      1. bobS's Avatar
        bobS -
        You guys need a built trans AND a software change. The software is the hard part. Unless someone is able to reprogram that trans, your shift points won't change and beefing up the internals is just buying time, it's not a complete solution. I would think the Alpina trans flash would be a must. If only alpina could come out with a built AT and flash....then you would have a complete solution!

        I don't know what is up with stickys car...the dct can hold more power than the s65 and n54 throw at it, but it's a software change last time I heard. Stickys car has been under the knife for 4 years now I think...It has to be done this spring
      1. mjmarovi's Avatar
        mjmarovi -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 07Tundra Click here to enlarge
        how did you do that?
      1. mjmarovi's Avatar
        mjmarovi -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
        You guys need a built trans AND a software change. The software is the hard part. Unless someone is able to reprogram that trans, your shift points won't change and beefing up the internals is just buying time, it's not a complete solution. I would think the Alpina trans flash would be a must. If only alpina could come out with a built AT and flash....then you would have a complete solution!

        I don't know what is up with stickys car...the dct can hold more power than the s65 and n54 throw at it, but it's a software change last time I heard. Stickys car has been under the knife for 4 years now I think...It has to be done this spring
        I know people keep saying this, and I understand that software upgrades are needed, but what exactly would need to change, you say shift points? I don't understand how software would help the upgraded hardware last longer. Dodson offers upgrades with warranties that are proven to work on other platforms without any change to software, so why would ours be different? I understand it helps to shift quicker but the alpina helps that out, and I would think Alpina is pretty much maxing out the shift times this trans is capable of, but who knows.
      1. bobS's Avatar
        bobS -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
        I know people keep saying this, and I understand that software upgrades are needed, but what exactly would need to change, you say shift points? I don't understand how software would help the upgraded hardware last longer. Dodson offers upgrades with warranties that are proven to work on other platforms without any change to software, so why would ours be different? I understand it helps to shift quicker but the alpina helps that out, and I would think Alpina is pretty much maxing out the shift times this trans is capable of, but who knows.
        The software changes are needed for the trans to shift properly and handle the new hp/tq. As a transmission wears, the clutch material is thinner and it takes longer for the clutch to move and
        engage to the next gear. I'm talking about very small tolerances hear but it makes all the difference. With beefed up internals, the clutches are different sizes than oem and require more force to shift. The tq converter uses the trans fluid to shift to the next gear, it's a pretty complicated system of planetary gears that use fluid pressure to shift. I'm telling you, your only halfway upgrading the trans by only changing the internals and no software.
      1. 07Tundra's Avatar
        07Tundra -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
        how did you do that?
        Did what ...lol dude I've been researching ever since my I got my kit! I have been in contact with companies overseas even. So i'm trying not to give up and sell my car and go get a manual.
      1. mjmarovi's Avatar
        mjmarovi -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 07Tundra Click here to enlarge
        Did what ...lol dude I've been researching ever since my I got my kit! I have been in contact with companies overseas even. So i'm trying not to give up and sell my car and go get a manual.
        Yeah, I hear ya, same here. I was going to send a trans over to Dodson and they were going to build it to hold 1000 ft/lb, had everything ready to go, wrote up a simple contract, sent it to them, then never heard back. Pissed me off actually cause I paid $1300 plus shipping for a low mileage working order transmission just to send them after they told me it was a go, then one week after I get the trans and am ready to send out I ask if they signed the contract yet to send it back to me and got no reply except to hold off on shipping the trans...WTF? Not professional at all IMO and I won't ever bother with them again. It was a joke trying to communicate with them...and they speak the same $#@!ing language?