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    Speedriven claiming 1200+ horsepower "Anarchy" upgrade kit for the M275 twin turbo V12's (600, 65 AMG)

    Talk about a bold claim. Now Speedriven has done some great work so do not get us wrong but 1200+ horsepower out of the M275 is a very bold claim to make. The 1200+ HP Anarchy package includes Garret Tial Turbos, custom Speedriven manifolds, custom air to water intercoolers, custom intake, fuel pump, larger injectors, transmission upgrade, and all associated hardware. The Anarchy package retails for $32,000.

    Now, when making such a bold claim and putting out the specs and pricing where is the dyno? Where is the 1/4 mile time? Where is any support for the claim? We are not saying they have not hit this figure just we have seen these claims from Speedriven before without much supporting material. We are thrilled to see the M275 getting the attention it deserves but we want to see the wheel figures before recommending anyone blow $30,000 on anything.

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    I agree. If your going to claim 1200hp, which Is propabley the most I've seen for a V12 (MKB has a 1000hp set up), dynosheets need to be given.
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    Did MKB ever back up their 1000?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Did MKB ever back up their 1000?
    you didnt see the MAHA dynosheets?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SLS AMG Click here to enlarge
    you didnt see the MAHA dynosheets?
    They may be posted here somewhere I don't remember if they are.

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    That's a bold statement... could honestly be possible though. On a stock engine?
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    I heard these V12's have one of the worst flowing head. Without working on them, i think extracting 200hp/liter isn't possible.

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    for only $32,000? that seems a little cheap

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    I heard these V12's have one of the worst flowing head. Without working on them, i think extracting 200hp/liter isn't possible.
    The heads can be improved as can the cam. This still is a monster V12 it can make a ton of power before the headwork.

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    I get my cars dyno'd at the same place that Speedriven does here in Illinois.

    I'll see if I can get a hold of my dyno operator to convince Speedriven to post here....
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    A dyno would be great, but you can be sure that if SPEEDRIVEN says its, its true.

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    A dyno would be great, but you can be sure that if SPEEDRIVEN says its, its true.

    PS - The 1200 HP kit is $26K right now, and the 800 HP kit is $5K

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    1200 HP for a 6.5L Twin Turbo V12 shouldn't be way off hand...

    GTR's can do it with half the displacement and half the cylinders... oh wait Click here to enlarge

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    sounds very cheap, and if its stock internals thats asking allot of the motor!!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by flipm3 Click here to enlarge
    I get my cars dyno'd at the same place that Speedriven does here in Illinois.

    I'll see if I can get a hold of my dyno operator to convince Speedriven to post here....
    Have they even dyno'd this? I want to know what they are basing this power claim on.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    1200 HP for a 6.5L Twin Turbo V12 shouldn't be way off hand...

    GTR's can do it with half the displacement and half the cylinders... oh wait Click here to enlarge
    It isn't 6.5 liters. 6.0 liters for the 65's.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    sounds very cheap, and if its stock internals thats asking allot of the motor!!
    The V12TT motors have a forged bottom end and are well know to be bullet proof
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Have they even dyno'd this? I want to know what they are basing this power claim on.
    Here's is one that they posted on another site, they where just getting started and where not satisfied with the results. The best bet is to contact SPEEDRIVEN you can be sure that they do NOT make claims that they cannot back up.

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    818 wheel is great, but that is a hell of a long way from 1200 horsepower. Seems they are jumping the gun quite a bit.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    The heads can be improved as can the cams. This still is a monster V12 it can make a ton of power before the headwork.
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    The 1200+ HP Anarchy package includes Garret Tial Turbos, custom Speedriven manifolds, custom air to water intercoolers, custom intake, fuel pump, larger injectors, transmission upgrade, and all associated hardware.
    Headwork isn't mentioned here. Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    Headwork isn't mentioned here. Click here to enlarge
    Nope, it isn't. The V12 can make a ton of power before headwork although yes at some point it will be a limitation. Not sure if the head is a limiting factor for 1200 hp.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    818 wheel is great, but that is a hell of a long way from 1200 horsepower. Seems they are jumping the gun quite a bit.
    Looks like around 880 rwtq, too - the "spike" to 970+ notwithstanding.

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    Well hopefully they deliver I just don't understand making the product claims before the result.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Well hopefully they deliver I just don't understand making the product claims before the result.
    Here, here!!

    That is a VERY bold claim without ANYTHING to back it up. They do good work, as I have seen on many boards. But to make a statment like this without a dyno sheetClick here to enlarge

    I only hope that it IS true

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