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    Chicago Half Miles Videos(vargas stage 2 unveil)

    Figured I would post this up over here as well since tony is on these forums frequently.

    Well we had some success today. Stayed dry all morning, unfortunately we did get rained out around 330-345 but we all got 4-7 runs in.


    First I will say this about the event itself.
    Wannagofast management and planning is pretty poor. Things were very slow, a little chaotic and generally not run very well. Lunch especially was abysmal, we were promised a catered lunch to fill us up after a half day of racing. During the lunch break we were greeted by only 3 baskets of tomales and hot sauce, which was followed 20 minutes later by some sliders showing up. VERY poor planning here, this was par for the course throughout the day. Now, on to the races.


    My car is a FBO 09 e92 6AT with alpina flash and VARGAS stage 2 hybrid turbos.


    All I got on my go pro were 3 races, more will trickle in as others post stuff.


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    Me vs. Lamborghini Murcielago from a dig (very unhappy lambo owner Click here to enlarge)


    Me vs FBO RB turbo 335is who put down 479whp
    from a dig, both get decent launches and it's a dead heat. Our traps were identical all day at 150mph



    Me vs Same RB turbo car as above, he spins first gear. I nailed a very hard second gear launch and walked away hard race was over as soon as it started.



    Here is my very brief synopsis of RB vs Vargas for stage 2 kits. They are a dead heat, both kits are extremely equal. As they are intended to be, no apparent advantage to either kit. Though as you can see I did still win both races, and am now pretty partial to my kickass vargas turbos! Tony does good work!


    There were quite a few other N54's there to represent today as well. I would say nearly 10 in total, and a 15-20 car BMW showing. Very good day, I hope some of the other guys chime in here and use this as a place to post up some of those vids/pics when they get them.

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    what tune do you have? and what was the boost set to?

    car looks strong
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    Car is tuned by PTF boost is 20 pounds tapering to 16.5 or so if i recall correctly. Sorry if that's not right so many last minute revisions this week.

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    What rpm were you shifting at? Can't wait to get my stage 2 vtt turbos.
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    was the smoke from the murcielago at 20 sec. from the tires or clutch, it looks likes it came from the engine bay but i cant tell

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    Awesome!!! I love to see N54 putting in work, regardless of the tune or hardware they're running
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by idriveslo Click here to enlarge
    First I will say this about the event itself.
    Wannagofast management and planning is pretty poor. Things were very slow, a little chaotic and generally not run very well. Lunch especially was abysmal, we were promised a catered lunch to fill us up after a half day of racing. During the lunch break we were greeted by only 3 baskets of tomales and hot sauce, which was followed 20 minutes later by some sliders showing up. VERY poor planning here, this was par for the course throughout the day. Now, on to the races.
    this, is what i hear a lot.. the planning and execution. everyone thinks they can jut rent a place, charge people, and it will go well. If its not gonna be a decent meal, dont include it. set th event up how you, as a racer want it to flow.. its all about flow..

    looks like you had some good runs though

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    was the 335is manual? looked like a lot of sloppy shifting

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    was the 335is manual? looked like a lot of sloppy shifting
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    I believe his car is a 6MT
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    Damn, that was really sick. Lambo had no chance, even from a dig which is the saddest part.
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    Yes, his car is 6MT.

    I was able to run the Vargas car against my FBO no meth for the last run and Dan beat me by a car. I really wish one of us had a gopro for that run.

    I trapped 146.15 and he was 146.10

    All of the N54's represented well and it was fun hanging out at the track with everyone... much more fun than arguing on the message boards.
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    Hey, great runs guys! Both cars have more left in them. Some smoke coming up from that Murci, was his car running right? That's an ass kicking and a half, almost unbelievableClick here to enlarge

    @mithiral67's car was tuned for 450wtq peak as per his request by Jake...I etuned @idriveslo's car with peak 20psi down low, 18.5psi@6000rpm, 17psi at 6500rpm with timing in the 12-13.5deg range...more left in both setups in both timing and boost departments but given they were going 1/2 mile we decided this first time out to play it a bit safe just in case
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
    Hey, great runs guys! Both cars have more left in them. Some smoke coming up from that Murci, was his car running right? That's an ass kicking and a half, almost unbelievableClick here to enlarge

    @mithiral67's car was tuned for 450wtq peak as per his request by Jake...I etuned @idriveslo's car with peak 20psi down low, 18.5psi@6000rpm, 17psi at 6500rpm with timing in the 12-13.5deg range...more left in both setups in both timing and boost departments but given they were going 1/2 mile we decided this first time out to play it a bit safe just in case
    yeah, looked like the clutch was frying for a moment, right?

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    Am I the only one that thinks the RB car did extremely well given the information provided. It appears to be running less E85, has no fueling upgrades and is a 6MT. Without knowing the true details of the tuning and how aggressive it is between both vehicles, the RB car appears to be more impressive.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    was the 335is manual? looked like a lot of sloppy shifting
    The 335is was my car and yes, I am not the best shifter. This was the first race event I have ever done, so a little new at pounding through all the gears at wot. I generally don't do that on the street being I don't hate my clutch and don't need to. Sorry I didn't do better on the second run. Wish I could have done another but had to run after that one.

    I was also having some issues with power after shifting, I will post logs shortly.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by stormtrooper335 Click here to enlarge
    was the smoke from the murcielago at 20 sec. from the tires or clutch, it looks likes it came from the engine bay but i cant tell
    It might have, but the murc was trapping in the 13Xs all day, so Dan would have taken him in any race unless he really botched the launch.
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    I will post of logs and the trap slips later, we got hammered last night and had to leave my car and walk home, all the $#@!s still in there.
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    Sorry here is a full mods list since I cant edit my original post. And I was surprised by the results to be honest. I had talked with dzenno beforehand about who he though would take it, and we both agreed the RB car should edge me out. I have to be pretty pro vargas since I have a set of his beta turbos on the car. But @mithiral67 and I had a hell of a fun time battling it out. That first race between us was the most even race of the day and I know without variables every single one would be that close.

    Side note aw335i's car HAULS ASS on stock fram turbos! That thing was kicking ass! We had an awesome n54 turnout there yesterday for sure. Was very nice to see everyone Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    Am I the only one that thinks the RB car did extremely well given the information provided. It appears to be running less E85, has no fueling upgrades and is a 6MT. Without knowing the true details of the tuning and how aggressive it is between both vehicles, the RB car appears to be more impressive.
    Since when does more E85 and a fuel pump upgrade give you more HP? They may allow you to run more HP if tuned for them. I think it's really hard for people to actually accept that while a good upgrade RB's are not magic as they have been look at for years. It's a hybrid upgrade, I have said over and over I do not expect stage 2's to make any more power over RB's we built them to perform as well and added a few things to hopefully make them live a little longer, people wi still try to discount it but the first part is proven. Dan, cool videos and thanks for repping for us out there!!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Since when does more E85 and a fuel pump upgrade give you more HP? They may allow you to run more HP if tuned for them. I think it's really hard for people to actually accept that while a good upgrade RB's are not magic as they have been look at for years. It's a hybrid upgrade, I have said over and over I do not expect stage 2's to make any more power over RB's we built them to perform as well and added a few things to hopefully make them live a little longer, people wi still try to discount it but the first part is proven. Dan, cool videos and thanks for repping for us out there!!
    Exactly! the point of these vargas hybrids really wasnt to go out and beat rb's every day. It was to outlast them at similar performance levels. Haha had a few people ask about the vargas sticker on the back of the car tony. Happy to do it, great results, fun day!

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    My mod list for comparision

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    Here are my logs from the run. My timing doesn't look great, but it is what it is.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Since when does more E85 and a fuel pump upgrade give you more HP? They may allow you to run more HP if tuned for them. I think it's really hard for people to actually accept that while a good upgrade RB's are not magic as they have been look at for years. It's a hybrid upgrade, I have said over and over I do not expect stage 2's to make any more power over RB's we built them to perform as well and added a few things to hopefully make them live a little longer, people wi still try to discount it but the first part is proven. Dan, cool videos and thanks for repping for us out there!!
    very confusing statement... what was the point of running e70 then mixed w race gas? lol
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    You can see where I started to spin in first and got off the throttle to correct, I didn't do that in the second race and it costs me pretty bad. Dan, look at second, just hooking up, makes no $#@!ing sense why my all seasons get full traction at wot, but they do.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
    yeah, looked like the clutch was frying for a moment, right?
    Yeah that was the clutch. It looked like he was going to have a good start but either that clutch is worn out or his held his foot on it too long.

    Good runs. Not that it would matter but i'm sure those wheels are hurting that Bull in the mph department a good bit
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