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    Supercharged S65 vs. Single Turbo N54

    I was browsing YouTube and came across this video, not sure if it is a repost though:

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    it seems like the single turbo n54 do not show there power on the street , makes me wonder how strong the tuning really is, how it holds up on the street
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ChuckD05 Click here to enlarge
    it seems like the single turbo n54 do not show there power on the street , makes me wonder how strong the tuning really is, how it holds up on the street
    Wasn't that just a street race i watched?
    Looks like the single turbo N54 did great.

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    I am not sure what a gintani stage 2 car puts down but he just walked the 335 by 4+ cars in a few seconds.
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    something wrong with the 335i, 335i with rb turbos can do better than the one in the vid!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ChuckD05 Click here to enlarge
    I am not sure what a gintani stage 2 car puts down but he just walked the 335 by 4+ cars in a few seconds.
    560whp on dynojet, look at the details under the vid, both cars MT

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    ^^^LMFAO!!! you're probably right though hahaha
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    LOL, pretty sure this was already front paged about 4-5 months ago.
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    wow, what a horrible showing for the 335

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    I'd be interested to know the details of this 335, what kit, how much boost, tune, etc. A SC s65 is very quick, there is literally no lag, instant power and it screams to redline....with a dct it would have been worse. Without details on the 335 though, who knows....
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    Saw this video a few weeks ago. Can't really say much besides the fact an idiot would put a gt37r on this car. It's been rated one of the worst turbo choices and horrible lag next to the gt40r. The n54 needs a new turbo setup.
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    LOL @22psi needs moar boost pls
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    Since no body knows whos N54 that is, its running a very oversized GT37 who knows what model turbo, and no one has any idea who tuned it, my guess is that car is not running anywhere near its potential, a stage 2 SC'd M3 isn't walking away from an N54 putting down a legit 700WHP from a roll, that's just a fact

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Since no body knows whos N54 that is, its running a very oversized GT37 who knows what model turbo, and no one has any idea who tuned it, my guess is that car is not running anywhere near its potential, a stage 2 SC'd M3 isn't walking away from an N54 putting down a legit 700WHP from a roll, that's just a fact

    theres supposed to be the one SC M3 down here but still cant get a run.. he called me out then changed his mind a while back
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ak335i Click here to enlarge
    theres supposed to be the one SC M3 down here but still cant get a run.. he called me out then changed his mind a while back
    He would get stomped, your AT would make it even worse for him

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    He would get stomped, your AT would make it even worse for him
    maybe he googled me LoL
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    Some more detailed here guys (pulled from Youtube Description):

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    6-speed manual Gintani Stage 2 supercharged E92 M3 vs. 6-speed manual single turbo BMS tuned N54 E92 335i from a roll

    Videos of single turbo N54's going up against supercharged E9X M3's are hard to come by so we will forgive the low cell phone video quality here as you can still clearly see what happens. The camera car is a single turbo E9X 335i with a Garrett GT37R single turbo conversion pushing roughly 22 psi. The red E92 M3 features a Gintani Stage 2 supercharger system at 7.5 psi of boost. Both cars have 6-speed manual transmissions.

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    The first run is a second gear roll and the 335 gets a slight jump. The M3 quickly pulls even and past it though and continues to pull into the higher gears. A fairly-one sided race.

    The next run is a higher speed roll starting in 3rd gear. The M3 jumps on the second honk so this time it has an early lead. Due to this it quickly puts a few car lengths on the 335 and once the M3 flashes its lights the race is over.

    Highway pulls like this will favor the top end of the M3 as any torque advantage the 335 has is mitigated by the gearing and revs. Keeping in mind this is a centrifugal supercharger on the M3 and boost builds with the revs so winding it out only helps.

    There are obviously stronger examples of 335's as well as M3's out there but this type of highway race generally favors an M3.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    LOL, pretty sure this was already front paged about 4-5 months ago.
    Was it?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Was it?
    the vid uploaded on Apr 12, 2014

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Since no body knows whos N54 that is, its running a very oversized GT37 who knows what model turbo, and no one has any idea who tuned it, my guess is that car is not running anywhere near its potential, a stage 2 SC'd M3 isn't walking away from an N54 putting down a legit 700WHP from a roll, that's just a fact
    Its not neccessarily oversized, just a poor choice in turbo. The 6466 is similar in size as well as my Comp 6465, it's just not a good flowing turbo, it's rated at 675hp lol. So even at 22 psi, it's prob barely 500whp. while the 6466/6465 would be 600whp at that psi.
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    I wish some single turbo 335's would come to the slipstream roll racing event at pocono raceway on July 11th, and/or mpacts roll racing at pocono on july 12th. There will be plenty of SC m3's there as well as other real fast cars.

    I agree, a 700whp single 335 would be a different story but it seems there aren't many of them around.
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