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    N54's are for computer racing and dyno digs mate

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    You can tell that 335i falls WAY out of the powerband on a shift. He keeps 'catching up' regarding speed at the top of each gear but then gets left on the shift. The 6MT M3 has issues in 1st and through 2nd, but after that the gearing is matched really well with the powerband, which the centri-blower only makes bigger.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Group.america Click here to enlarge
    N54's are for computer racing and dyno digs mate

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    lol
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sered Click here to enlarge
    You can tell that 335i falls WAY out of the powerband on a shift. He keeps 'catching up' regarding speed at the top of each gear but then gets left on the shift. The 6MT M3 has issues in 1st and through 2nd, but after that the gearing is matched really well with the powerband, which the centri-blower only makes bigger.
    The powerband is way more narrow on the n54 and it shows especially on the shifts. The m3 is just linear and consistent and on the higher gear shifts just falls into a sweet spot on each change especially in 3rd and on.

    I'm just glad this was not a dct car for either.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
    The powerband is way more narrow on the n54 and it shows especially on the shifts. The m3 is just linear and consistent and on the higher gear shifts just falls into a sweet spot on each change especially in 3rd and on.

    I'm just glad this was not a dct car for either.
    nope the ST n54 in the vid is only about as fast as a fbo stock turbo n54. very unimpressive by both vehicles
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    Whatever you need to tell yourself man. If that m3 is unimpressive it sounds to me like you won't find any impressive due to the badge and not the performance.

    That car moves and moves well.

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    I was joking.... ok only kinda
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    I think it even might be the same M3 as this video...Not sure tho:

    AK might have a good point
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
    Whatever you need to tell yourself man. If that m3 is unimpressive it sounds to me like you won't find any impressive due to the badge and not the performance.

    That car moves and moves well.

    nothing do to with the M or not. i care less. all im saying is that ST would have had a hard time pulling a FBO/meth stock turbo n54
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
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    BTW found another road out here where locals can race safely...... in the old Grumman factory airfield..............would love to hook up vs your car with my TTS... think we would be close
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rooringhusky Click here to enlarge
    I think it even might be the same M3 as this video...Not sure tho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuBDWNqVHyM

    AK might have a good point
    thanks,

    my point exactly, the m3 is moving no doubt.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ak335i Click here to enlarge
    nothing do to with the M or not. i care less. all im saying is that ST would have had a hard time pulling a FBO/meth stock turbo n54
    You have a hell of a youtube dyno calibration there.

    A highway roll with a supercharged m3 is going to take some serious hp from an n54. More than the m3 that's for sure especially if it's a dct. An 8400 rpm redline and centrifugal blower have their benefits.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Group.america Click here to enlarge
    BTW found another road out here where locals can race safely...... in the old Grumman factory airfield..............would love to hook up vs your car with my TTS... think we would be close
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
    You have a hell of a youtube dyno calibration there.

    A highway roll with a supercharged m3 is going to take some serious hp from an n54. More than the m3 that's for sure especially if it's a dct. An 8400 rpm redline and centrifugal blower have their benefits.
    ya im not disagreeing with that, im saying that the ST there has low torque and low boost. its not much if any faster than a FBO/meth N54 what are you not understanding about that?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ak335i Click here to enlarge
    thanks,

    my point exactly, the m3 is moving no doubt.
    The m walked that FBO n54 harder though.... But yes 22 psi is low for a single n54. The problem is, it's all we really have to compare to right now. @Ak335i you need to get out there and get some races
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    The m walked that FBO n54 harder though.... But yes 22 psi is low for a single n54. The problem is, it's all we really have to compare to right now. @Ak335i you need to get out there and get some races

    i know, ive been talking to Steve and we may meet up in NC some time. sucks there are no other fast BMWs racing down here ;/
    ive got tons of races, just cant get a SC m3 to run me down here
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    I wish some single turbo 335's would come to the slipstream roll racing event at pocono raceway on July 11th, and/or mpacts roll racing at pocono on july 12th. There will be plenty of SC m3's there as well as other real fast cars.

    I agree, a 700whp single 335 would be a different story but it seems there aren't many of them around.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ak335i Click here to enlarge
    i know, ive been talking to Steve and we may meet up in NC some time. sucks there are no other fast BMWs racing down here ;/
    ive got tons of races, just cant get a SC m3 to run me down here
    I wanna see you race some of the guys over on the KOTS Grab-a-Lane list!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    I'm surprised, fl is a decent scene, there has to be some AA SC cars down there lurking
    yes there was one, called me out. I called his bluff and went to drive the hour to run him and he backed out and wont run me

    im working on finding him or another still
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ak335i Click here to enlarge
    ya im not disagreeing with that, im saying that the ST there has low torque and low boost. its not much if any faster than a FBO/meth N54 what are you not understanding about that?
    Your basis for your comment is the car losing to an m3 from multiple speeds. You have no idea how the 335 performs and are underestimating the competition.

    I'm so sure a fbo 335 would do better or even se this car's taillights. 7.5 psi is enough to trap 130 with an m3. A fbo 335 isn't doing that and isn't a race for this car.

    Seriously, it lost. Big deal. Yes, single turbo n54s can lose to low torque 'weak' m3s. I just find it amusing how it's the supercharged m3 that seems to always overachieve.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    Looks like the forum is double posting for some reason
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
    Your basis for your comment is the car losing to an m3 from multiple speeds. You have no idea how the 335 performs and are underestimating the competition.

    I'm so sure a fbo 335 would do better or even se this car's taillights. 7.5 psi is enough to trap 130 with an m3. A fbo 335 isn't doing that and isn't a race for this car.

    Seriously, it lost. Big deal. Yes, single turbo n54s can lose to low torque 'weak' m3s. I just find it amusing how it's the supercharged m3 that seems to always overachieve.
    you are arguing with yourself.

    i know how single turbo n54s perform and i know that at 22psi that one is not much faster than a fbo/meth stock turbo 335i. sorry if that upsets you.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ak335i Click here to enlarge
    you are arguing with yourself.

    i know how single turbo n54s perform and i know that at 22psi that one is not much faster than a fbo/meth stock turbo 335i. sorry if that upsets you.
    Excuses upset me. Thankfully I don't have to sit here and make them.

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