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    OE Tuning C63 w/ Full Gintani Exhaust + Headers VS. P31 C63 VBOX RUNS

    OE Tuned C63 with a full catless GINTANI exhaust system including their headers ran
    a 60-130 VBOX time of 8.58

    My C63 w/ P31 (stock) ran a 60-130 VBOX time of 9.87




    This is solid right here, running with some of the best!!! Good job Jeremy! Right in there with the MHP cars.... Speaks volumes about both tuners!

    8.25 - Dodger63 / C63 MHP headers, tune, intake, scoops, DRs and skinnies, race fuel
    8.58 - Jeremy - OE tuned / Gintani full exhaust and headers, K&N, 91 oct
    8.89 - MTHIS C63/ MHP - L/T headers, Tune,
    9.87 - DDGT3RD - Stock C63 w/ P31, 91 oct



    Guys hopefully will have a dyno of my car soon, and a dyno after I take out the charcoal filters, and then a tune. Excited to see how much I can lower my time with just the above listed mods.


    Also if anyone knows a stock c63 without p31 vbox time would love to see it!

    OE / GINTANI Graph

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    My C63 w/ P31 Graph

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    Last edited by DD GT3 RD; 02-25-2011 at 04:14 PM.
    Current:
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    Wsir - 1:28:9
    Buttonwillow C13 - 1:54:1

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    Awesome results.

    Looking forward to the videos and when you put those up I will add them in and promote this to the front page as a stock C63 P31 vs. Tuned C63 comparison, ok?
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    that is so freakin fast. thats really one engine i would not want to mess with! its really like the ls7 in making power, i love this motor and it's potential. if it came in manual i think the m3 would lose it's place in my book.

    awesome results for gintani and OE. btw whose car is this? we should get the owner on BB. great post OP
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Awesome results.

    Looking forward to the videos and when you put those up I will add them in and promote this to the front page as a stock C63 P31 vs. Tuned C63 comparison, ok?
    Jeremy and jj have the videos.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    that is so freakin fast. thats really one engine i would not want to mess with! its really like the ls7 in making power, i love this motor and it's potential. if it came in manual i think the m3 would lose it's place in my book.

    awesome results for gintani and OE. btw whose car is this? we should get the owner on BB. great post OP
    The other car is Jeremy's.

    Also I have to say I am very happy with the p31. 9.8 is a pretty solid #. I believe m3's are in the mid 12's when they are dct. I just need to find out what a non p31 c63 runs
    Current:
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    Jeremy and jj have the videos.
    Are they uploading them or can they send them to me?
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    FYI, dodger is 8.25 verified and posted on 6 speed online with 2 shifts before adding our catback, we'll get new numbers at the next rental. Click here to enlarge

    Nice job Sammy.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MHP LLC Click here to enlarge
    FYI, dodger is 8.25 verified and posted on 6 speed online with 2 shifts before adding our catback, we'll get new numbers at the next rental. Click here to enlarge

    Nice job Sammy.
    Yep, also important to note the 93 octane.
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    excuse my ignorance, what is P31. i been seeing it thrown around a bit. im assuming a s/w version, but is it factory?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    excuse my ignorance, what is P31. i been seeing it thrown around a bit. im assuming a s/w version, but is it factory?
    after reading the other posts, i need some info like LM not too sure but p31 is a diff engine?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    after reading the other posts, i need some info like LM not too sure but p31 is a diff engine?
    different motor alltogether? well, i was way off then

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    different motor alltogether? well, i was way off then
    actually brother, sorry for my misinformation.

    This is what the P31 package contains I believe:

    *Increase HP to 481
    *Light Weight AMG Forged Pistons
    *Light Weight Connecting Rods
    *Revised Crankshaft
    *New Engine Managment
    *AMG Compound Braking System
    *Red Brake Calipers
    *New CF Rear Trunk Spoiler
    * Top Speed of 174mph!
    * New Alacantera AMG Steering Wheel

    Is that correct though? The P31 has different pistons, rods, and crank? The software is clearly different, I think I even remember reading something about a tuner just reflashing C63's with P31 software.


    from here : http://www.benzboost.com/showthread....C63-vs-C63-P31
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    The other car is Jeremy's.

    Also I have to say I am very happy with the p31. 9.8 is a pretty solid #. I believe m3's are in the mid 12's when they are dct. I just need to find out what a non p31 c63 runs
    that's really cool that the tuner himself has that car. hopefully this mean we'll be seeing lots more videos and improvements for the c63's esp since you and him have one.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    excuse my ignorance, what is P31. i been seeing it thrown around a bit. im assuming a s/w version, but is it factory?
    Different software, pistons, rods, crank. More horsepower... pretty cool option.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MHP LLC Click here to enlarge
    FYI, dodger is 8.25 verified and posted on 6 speed online with 2 shifts before adding our catback, we'll get new numbers at the next rental. Click here to enlarge

    Nice job Sammy.
    Updated the time.

    thank you! Let me know if you know any stock c63 vbox times
    Current:
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    Wsir - 1:28:9
    Buttonwillow C13 - 1:54:1

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    also did MTHIS run 91, 93 octane or race fuel?
    Current:
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    Wsir - 1:28:9
    Buttonwillow C13 - 1:54:1

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    Updated the images Sammy.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    Updated the time.

    thank you! Let me know if you know any stock c63 vbox times
    I've been keeping an eye out and haven't seen any unfortunately Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    also did MTHIS run 91, 93 octane or race fuel?
    Honestly I can't answer this for sure because I don't know, I believe 93 though.

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    Don't forget the 6.66 via DadsC63 on 125 shot. Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MHP LLC Click here to enlarge
    Don't forget the 6.66 via DadsC63 on 125 shot. Click here to enlarge
    Def didnt forget the 666!!! Wicked fast Click here to enlarge

    I just posted the na times.

    I think we found a stock c63 who is down to.do some vbox runs so hopefully will have some times to reference...im guessing mid 10s maybe
    Current:
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    Def didnt forget the 666!!! Wicked fast Click here to enlarge

    I just posted the na times.

    I think we found a stock c63 who is down to.do some vbox runs so hopefully will have some times to reference...im guessing mid 10s maybe
    Awesome! That would be my guess as well, mid 10s for a stocker. Please keep us posted!

    Thanks!

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    Man hopefully I can ditch these two cars and get into a C63 or a GTR tough choice.... but now I read forged pistons on the p31? Thats great for a spray application. How are the light weight rods? Forged?

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    Nice numbers fellas. I did mine with 93 oct
    Once the weather warms up here a bit I'll go out and do some more vbox numbers

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mthis Click here to enlarge
    Nice numbers fellas. I did mine with 93 oct
    Once the weather warms up here a bit I'll go out and do some more vbox numbers
    Thank boss!
    Def keep up the good work, love to see more runs.
    Current:
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    Wsir - 1:28:9
    Buttonwillow C13 - 1:54:1

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    Thank boss!
    Def keep up the good work, love to see more runs.
    What was the incline/decline. On mine and mikes it's was 0% u can't get any flatter then drag strip

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